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Chart #41 Does the World For Which Jesus Died Refer Only to the Elect?

  1. 1 John 2:2 - "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
  2. John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world..."
    a. If the world for which God gave his son means only the elect, then this passage says God gave His son for the elect that whosoever of them (the elect) would believe should not perish; the rest of the elect would perish, hence some of the elect would be lost and my opponent does not believe a word of it.
  3. 1 John 5:19 - "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."
  4. John 17:16 - "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."
    a. According to my opponents position the disciples and even Jesus were not of the elect.
  5. John 17:9 - "I pray not for the world."
    a. Does this mean that He did not pray for the elect?
  6. John 15:18 - "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."
    a. Was this the elect hating the disciples and Jesus?
  7. 1 Corinthians 11:32 - "That we should not be condemned with the world."
    a. My opponents position would make it say "condemned with the elect".
  8. James 4:4 - "Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
    a. My opponents position would have one an enemy of God if he is a friend of the elect."

Since the word "world" does not mean the "elect"  only, the Christ died for all mankind.  Hebrews 2:9 - "That He by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

Chart #42 A Look at the Sheep. John 10:14-16

  1. Verse 27 shows that the sheep Jesus is talking about are those that hear his voice and follow him.  Thus conditional salvation.
  2. What Made the Sheep Sheep and the Goats Goats?  See Matthew 25:31-46.  Thus conditional salvation.
  3. Isaiah 53:6 - "All we like sheep have gone astray."
    a. The Jews were children of God, "sheep", but were lost, "gone astray."
    b. Jesus Sent the Twelve "to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel." Matthew 10:6
  4. Matthew 10:16 - "Behold,  I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves."
    a. Jesus sent forth twelve as sheep.
    b. Therefore Judas was called a sheep.
    c. But Judas "lost his first estate and by transgression fell and went to his own place." Acts 1:25
    d. Jesus said Judas became the "son of perdition." John 17:12.
  5. Acts 20:28-30 - "Wolves will enter in not sparing the flock."
    a. Thus, those who have been sheep, those for whom Christ died, may be lost.

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