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Chart #37  God Has Always Blessed or Punished According to Obedience or Disobedience.

  1. Adam in the garden of Eden. Genesis 2:16-17
  2. Cain and Abel. Genesis 4:6-7
  3. Noah and the flood. Genesis 6:5-7
  4. The Law at Horeb. Deuteronomy 28:1-2
  5. Dedication of temple. 2 Chronicles 7:14-22
  6. Equality of God's ways. Ezekiel 18:20-28
  7. Blessing and cures set before thee. Deuteronomy 11:26-28
  8. Life and good - death and evil set before thee. Deuteronomy 30:15-19
  9. Do Father's will - Enter heaven. Matthew 7:21
  10. Obey - Eternal life. Hebrews 5:8-9
  11. Do Commands - Enter City. Revelation 22:14
  12. Obey not - punished. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

Chart #38 Romans 8:29-30

  1. Foreknew arrow Predestinated arrow Called arrrow Justified arrow GlorrifiedFive predicates in the past tense all affirmed of one and the same class.
  2. "Glorified" cannot apply to any living person in the flesh.
    a. John 7:39 - "Jesus was not yet glorified.
    b. John 17:1 - "Glorify thy Son."
    c. 1 Timothy 3:16 - "Received up in glory."
    d. Even here in Romans 8:17-19 Paul shows that the Christians glorification is yet future.
  3. My opponents position would have Christians "glorified" already while here in the flesh.
    a. Paul said it was yet future. Romans 8:17-19
    b. I had rather take Paul.
  4. These were predestinated to bear the image of Christ.
    a. Christians will bear the image of Christ when resurrected, 1 Corinthians 15:47-49; 1 John 3:2, and glorified.
  5. This then cannot be a proof text for my opponent's position.

Chart # 38-B Romans 8:29-30 (Continued)

  1. Foreknew arrow Predestinated arrow Called arrow Justified arrow GlorifiedAll of these predicates must either be received in their simple past tense, or if you make one of them to mean something that God did or would do "in purpose" then all of them must be taken as referring to something "in purpose".
  2. Here in Verses 29 and 30 Paul talks about the whole "glorification."
  3. The persons to whom he refers are no longer in the flesh, "they have been glorified," if these are taken in the past tense.
  4. Hence, these have apparently been resurrected, if these are taken in the past tense.
  5. This was done that Christ might be first born among many brethren.
    a. He is the first born in glory and from the grave. Colossians 1:18
    b. They were not perfected until the provision was made in our dispensation. Hebrews 11:39-40; 9:15; 12:18-23; 9:11-12
  6. Many arose after His resurrection. Matthew 27:52-53
  7. Paul is applying God's dealings with His people in time past to those who are suffering in a similar way now.
    a. This is re-affirmation of verse 18 - "the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." (See also Hebrews 6:10-11; 12:1-2)
  8. Thus, Paul here proves the statement in verse 28 that "all things work together for good to them that love God." by showing the blessings conferred upon those who were faithful to Him in ages past.

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